demende rensiegnement sur le recon 1 cold steel

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demende rensiegnement sur le recon 1 cold steel

Messagepar GC » 06 Sep 2007 18:28

salut

je possede un recon 1 depuis plusieur années car comme dans le temps je n'utiliser que des acier au carbone
donc j'etais plus sage dans l'utilisation des mes couteaux puis je me decide de vendre alors je passe sur de l'inox et je me dis on va faire des testes conclusion le tranchant du recon il a pas aimé les coupeaux dans le rond de 8mm en acier :oops:

si quelqu'un a des infos sur le type dacier et la dureté suis prenneur

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Messagepar 974-ACP » 06 Sep 2007 18:32

Salut

rien sur le site de la maison mère ???
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Messagepar GC » 06 Sep 2007 18:36

ils disent AUS8 mais je pense à lepoque du 440A mais de dureté
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Messagepar freddy1 » 06 Sep 2007 18:37

c'est une lame carbone?

"1055 Carbon Steel (Cold Steel products)
1055 steel is right on the border between a medium and a high carbon steel, with a carbon content between 0.50%-0.60% and with manganese between 0.60%-0.90% as the only other component. The carbon content and lean alloy make this a shallow hardening steel with a quenched hardness between Rc 60-64 depending on exact carbon content. These combination of factors make this one of the toughest steels available because, when quenched, it produces a near saturated lathe martensite with no excess carbides, avoiding the brittleness of higher carbon materials. This steel is particularly suited to applications where strength and impact resistance is valued above all other considerations and will produce blades of almost legendary toughness.

SK-5 High Carbon Steel (Cold Steel products)
SK-5 is the Japanese equivalent of American 1080, a high carbon steel with carbon between 0.75%-0.85% and 0.60%-0.90% manganese. As quenched, it has a hardness near Rc 65 and produces a mixture of carbon rich martensite with some small un-dissolved carbides. The excess carbide increases abrasion resistance and allows the steel to achieve an ideal balance of very good blade toughness with superior edge holding ability. Due to these characteristics, this grade of steel has been used traditionally for making a variety of hand tools, including chisels and woodcutting saws, and has stood the test of time and use over many years in many countries."
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Messagepar PATT » 06 Sep 2007 18:49

m oter un doute , c est bien un couteau ? , ce n est pas une lime ni une scie .? donc je comprend un peu qu il n est pas apprecier l acier ,
je te charie , mais il faut pas pouser quand meme , a moins de tomber sur un bout de carne , et dans ce cas il faut changer de boucher , tu risques , les fois ou tu auras besoin d une lame qui tienne sur du metal , il ne vas pas y en avoir beaucoup , a moins que tu sois electricien , sinon le miens c est l outil fait pour ,
une ptite pointe de sarcasmes , juste pour relativiser le bidule :wink:
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Messagepar Sylla » 06 Sep 2007 18:49

C'est certainement pas du 440 pour ce modèle. Cold Steel utilise très peu cet acier , ils ont même laissé le 420HC pour passer au 4.116 Krupp.
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Messagepar freddy1 » 06 Sep 2007 18:53

si c'est un inox çà peut etre çà

OTHER BLADE STEELS (courtesy of Cold Steel, INC)
AUS-8 (also referred to as 8A) (some text courtesy of Cold Steel, Inc.)- The words "stainless steel" are misleading, because, in fact all steel will stain or show discoloration if left in adverse conditions for a sufficient time. Steel is made "stainless" by adding Chromium and reducing its Carbon content during the smelting process. Some authorities claim that there is a serious performance trade off with stainless steel: As the Chrome increases and the Carbon decreases, the steel be comes more "stainless". But it also becomes more and more difficult to sharpen and, some claim, the edge-holding potential is seriously impaired. We have found that most stainless steel blades are as sharp as other material blades and hold the edge longer. AUS 8A is a high carbon, low chromium stainless steel that has proven, over time, to be a very good compromise between toughness, strength, edge holding and resistance to corrosion.

ATS-34 - premium grade of stainless steel used by most custom knifemakers and upper echelon factory knives. It is Japanese steel, owned by Hitachi Steels. The American made equivalent of ATS-34 is 154CM, a steel popularized by renowned maker Bob Loveless.

GIN-1 (formerly known as G2) - another low cost steel, but slightly softer than AUS-8.

CPM-T440V - sometimes touted as the "super steel", it outlasts all stainless steels on the market today. It is, however, harder to resharpen (due to its unprecedented edge retention). But the tradeoff is that you do not have to sharpen as frequently. CPM-T440V is widely used by custom knifemakers and is slowly finding its way into high-end factory knives.

420J2 - (text courtesy of Cold Steel, Inc.) Due to its low carbon high chromium content this steel is an excellent choice for making tough (bends instead of breaking), shock absorbing knife blades with excel lent resistance to corrosion and moderate edge holding ability. It is an ideal candidate for knife blades that will be subject to a wide variety of environmental conditions including high temperature, humidity, and airborne corrosives such as salt in a marine environment. This extreme resistance to corrosion via its high chrome content also makes it a perfect choice for knife blades which are carried close to the body or in a pocket and blades which will receive little or no care or maintenance

San Mai III® (Cold Steel products)
San Mai means "three layers". It's the term given to the traditional laminated blades used by the Japanese for swords and daggers. Laminated construction is important because it allows different grades of steel to be combined in a single blade. A simple way to think of this type of construction is to imagine a sandwich: The meat center is hard, high carbon steel and the pieces of bread on either side are the lower-carbon, tough side panels. The edge of the blade should be hard to maximize edge holding ability, but if the entire blade was hard it could be damaged during the rigors of battle. For ultimate toughness the body of the blade must be able to withstand impact and lateral stresses. Toughness is generally associated with "softness" and "flexibility" in steel, so that, surprisingly, if a blade is made "tough" the edge won't be hard enough to offer superior edge holding. San Mai III® provides a blade with hard (higher carbon) steel in the middle for a keen, long lasting edge and tougher (lower-carbon) steel along the sides for flexibility.
VG-1 Stainless Steel (Cold Steel products)
Physical testing for sharpness, edge retention, point strength, shock, and ultimate blade strength showed that VG-1, showed the greatest performance increases in ability to retain an edge and proven strength in point and blade tests, VG-1 will provide Cold Steel® customers with superior performance previously unavailable in a stainless steel blade.

4116 Krupp Stainless Steel (Cold Steel products)
4116 is a fine grained, stainless steel made by ThyssenKrupp in Germany and is used for hygienic applications (medical devices and the pharmaceutical industry) and food processing which make it a superb material for kitchen cutlery. The balance of carbon and chromium content give it a high degree of corrosion resistance and also impressive physical characteristics of strength and edge holding. Edge retention in actual cutting tests exceeded blades made of the 420 and 440 series of stainless steels. Other alloying elements contribute to grain refinement which increase blade strength and edge toughness and also allow for a finer, sharper edge.

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Messagepar beuse » 06 Sep 2007 19:04

si le recon date un peu ,il doit être en 440 A Sub Zero Quenched (trempe cryogénique à - 120 °C)comme il est indiqué sur leur ancien catalogue .
Maintenant ils sont en Aus 8A .pas de précisions quand à la dureté !
mon pro lite que j'ai depuis 2-3 ans est aussi en 440 A SZQ ,mais je découpe pas des tiges d'acier de 0,8 cm ! :wink:
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Messagepar GC » 06 Sep 2007 19:48

merci pour votre aide il doit etre en 440 A car cela fait 5ans que je l'ai
patt j'ai fais ce teste sur le couteaux que je fais ca coupe encore apres :shock:
donc j'ai fais le meme teste avec le recon mais ca coupe plus
enfin c'est vrai le rond de 8 on en coupe pas beaucoup au bureau
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